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[0:48] Gative of trimesters.
[0:53] There are certain subjects
[0:58] they can only be discussed from inside.
[1:02] The deeper you go inside, the subtler
[1:05] the topics become.
[1:08] So we're going to touch this topic that
[1:10] I think people get often very wrong,
[1:12] which is witness consciousness.
[1:16] People write me and they say, "I'm
[1:18] witnessing. I'm witnessing. I see what's
[1:20] going on in there and I'm really getting
[1:22] uptight. I'm really having trouble. I
[1:24] was doing okay to start with, but now I
[1:27] I'm just feeling more depressed. Just
[1:29] sitting there watching is causing it not
[1:32] to do well. Well, that's not what's
[1:35] causing that to do well. So, let's talk
[1:37] about that. But I want to start with
[1:39] something very subtle.
[1:41] There's a difference between seeing and
[1:45] looking.
[1:47] They sound very similar. I'm looking at
[1:50] you. I'm seeing you. They're not even
[1:52] close.
[1:54] Seeing is passive.
[1:56] It happens by itself.
[1:59] There's no will involved.
[2:02] You just see what what there is to see.
[2:06] You're not judging it. You're not
[2:07] touching it. You're just noticing it.
[2:10] She's over there. He's over there. He's
[2:13] over there. Okay. He's got a bright
[2:15] shirt on. You're just seeing.
[2:18] Looking
[2:20] has intention behind it. Has will behind
[2:23] it. I'm looking for something. Both are
[2:26] using in the eyes,
[2:29] but it's not as clean as just seeing. Do
[2:32] you see the difference? It's deep. I'm
[2:34] talking to you deep tonight. All right.
[2:36] So if you're looking for something, it
[2:40] means there's a willful intent
[2:43] inside
[2:44] that is trying to either see something
[2:47] inside or see something outside. But
[2:50] there is intent involved. There's will
[2:52] involved. Seeing is not anything like
[2:54] that. Seeing is just the Buddhists have
[2:57] a thing called just seeing. You're just
[3:01] seeing. There's nobody doing anything.
[3:03] You don't the camera just sees
[3:07] you look. Okay? And that looking is what
[3:11] makes the difference. If you're looking,
[3:14] there will be tension
[3:17] because you're actually looking for it
[3:18] to be a certain way. You think that when
[3:21] there's consciousness means it's quiet
[3:24] in there. I can see what's going on in
[3:27] there because I'm looking at it. Right?
[3:30] I'll do it another way. Uh if you can
[3:32] get this, it would change your life in
[3:34] terms of how quickly you grow. All
[3:36] right? If you're looking, there's
[3:40] intent. So if you see something coming
[3:44] up and you're looking
[3:48] to see if it's what you want, to see if
[3:49] it's okay, to see if it's pure, to see
[3:52] if it's spiritual, to see what it's
[3:54] going to take you to God, you're
[3:56] judging. You're looking at it. To do
[3:59] that, you have to catch it. May believe
[4:01] it's a thought or a feeling. You catch
[4:04] it and you look at it and you decide, do
[4:09] I let it go? Do I rationalize it or can
[4:13] I push it away to have to deal with it?
[4:16] Everybody with me? It's pretty far back
[4:19] there, but you're all back there. And
[4:21] there's a big distinction between
[4:23] catching it and deciding what to do with
[4:26] it. That is not witness consciousness
[4:29] versus
[4:31] you notice that it comes up and passes
[4:35] through. There's nobody doing anything,
[4:38] you know, trying to make it pass through
[4:40] because what's the it? You have to have
[4:42] caught it. So, there's an it that you're
[4:45] letting pass through. Do you understand
[4:46] that? Otherwise, it's just it's coming.
[4:50] You're noticing and you're not touching
[4:53] it. You're not catching it. You're not
[4:55] rationalizing it. and thinking what to
[4:56] do about it. Is it okay? I hope you
[4:59] understand me. It's a very deep
[5:02] difference between letting it go and
[5:05] what other people think letting it go
[5:07] means I caught it. Can I let it go? How
[5:10] about if you don't catch it? You just
[5:12] let it go. Let it go through as opposed
[5:15] to you catch it and then let it go. I
[5:18] need to know. Can anybody understand the
[5:20] difference or am I just talking to the
[5:23] wind? Are you in there? Do you notice
[5:26] that what you call witness consciousness
[5:29] involves generally with most people till
[5:32] they go very deep it involves doing I'm
[5:36] being the witness. Well then you're not
[5:37] the witness.
[5:39] It's the layer of mind that is looking
[5:42] at the lower layers of mind and people
[5:45] will sometimes write me and it's rare
[5:47] but they'll write me and say now I see
[5:48] it that was mine. And I was calling it
[5:51] witness consciousness. But it was mind
[5:54] looking at what was below that layer of
[5:56] mind. And then that mind is deciding, do
[5:59] I let it go? Do I not let it go? Is this
[6:01] okay? Do I have to be embarrassed? What
[6:03] are other people thinking?
[6:05] None of that is witness consciousness.
[6:08] Witness consciousness is like you see
[6:10] the what's behind me. Go look what's
[6:12] behind me. How hard was that? I want to
[6:14] know how hard you to see what's there.
[6:17] Effortless.
[6:19] There's no will. say, "Okay, I want to
[6:20] look at that." [laughter] You just see
[6:22] it. It comes in and it passes through.
[6:25] That's when there's consciousness.
[6:27] You're noticing
[6:30] that it's coming in and passing through.
[6:32] You're not touching it. You're not
[6:33] judging it. You're not liking it. You're
[6:36] not not liking it. You're not
[6:38] rationalizing it. Oh, I'm okay. I'm
[6:40] higher than before. I had worse thoughts
[6:42] than this. So, I'm doing good. I'm in
[6:44] the witness. No, I mean, it's okay. You
[6:46] can call that witness. It is. It is
[6:48] higher than being lost in what's coming
[6:50] up. But I'm telling you that layer of
[6:53] witness is mine because it's still doing
[6:55] something. It's still actively
[6:58] exercising this will that's catching
[7:01] what's coming up. That's the best thing
[7:02] I can do. Once described it as the
[7:04] gatekeeper.
[7:06] There's a gatekeeper in there, isn't
[7:08] there? Especially if you're spiritual.
[7:11] You all get this spiritual ego
[7:12] gatekeeper. [snorts] All right. is
[7:14] coming up and somebody's checking out.
[7:17] Is this okay? Is this right? Is this
[7:21] clean? Is this where I want to be? Is
[7:22] how I want to be? That's the gatekeeper.
[7:25] Okay, look at me. That's got to go. I
[7:28] mean, if you want to go deep, there is
[7:31] no gatekeeper. The great ones, they've
[7:34] let go to where everything that comes up
[7:37] passes through. And with it is this rush
[7:41] is this ecstasy. It's this flow of
[7:44] energy making it through without
[7:46] touching anything. It's like you're
[7:48] going to undescribed as follows. And you
[7:50] will feel this some and when you get
[7:52] done right. Oh what hast thou done to
[7:55] me? Wave upon wave of endless ecstasy
[7:58] satishly day and night. Throng upon
[8:01] throng. Those are not idle words. It's
[8:05] throng upon throng waving through you.
[8:08] Nobody's touching it. It's just ecstasy
[8:12] and you're merging in it. You're not
[8:13] catching it. Oh, I wish I felt more.
[8:16] It's this. I used to feel there's nobody
[8:18] in here except the experiencer. That's
[8:21] the witness. How do you know you're
[8:23] experiencing ecstasy? How do you know?
[8:25] Because you're experiencing it. Can't do
[8:27] anything about it. Mind stops it. If
[8:30] mind for one moment says, "Oh boy, I
[8:32] used to have that when I first started
[8:34] meditating." Yog was very very strong. I
[8:36] seen the light and I remember the first
[8:40] time this back in 72 that I actually saw
[8:43] light. I did these little things, right?
[8:45] It's bam. The moment it came, it started
[8:48] to open up in there in the third eye,
[8:50] right? The mind said, "Oh, there it is.
[8:52] It goes away."
[8:54] Anybody notice? Okay. Kind of neat. You
[8:58] hear me? I want to talk to how to get
[9:01] past those stages.
[9:03] So, as long as there's a gatekeeper in
[9:05] there, a layer is still mine. Very deep
[9:08] layer, but a very deep layer of active
[9:12] vitis still vibrations in mind. Okay. In
[9:16] a mental plane, well, that's still
[9:18] there. It's going to judge. It's going
[9:22] to judge. Is this okay? Is that wrong?
[9:24] Etc., etc. And if it feels okay with it,
[9:28] it will let it go. If it doesn't feel
[9:30] okay with it, I'm telling you, it's
[9:31] going to push it down. Pushes away. I I
[9:34] don't want this thought. I don't want a
[9:36] sexual thought. I don't I don't want a
[9:37] thought that I might leave somebody. I
[9:38] don't want a thought that somebody not
[9:39] like me. I don't want that thought. No.
[9:41] No. I shouldn't have that thought. What
[9:43] do you do with it? You had it.
[9:45] Obviously, it obviously didn't pass
[9:47] through. Why? You stopped it. You
[9:49] actually stopped it from passing through
[9:51] so you could judge it.
[9:53] That's the gatekeeper. All right? And
[9:56] you know as I what trouble is the fish
[9:58] doesn't know they're in water because
[10:00] they never been out. Many many people,
[10:02] but I hope not you guys can't hear a
[10:04] word I'm talking about because they've
[10:06] never been out. It's just they're in it
[10:08] and they're judging themselves and
[10:10] they're judging their thoughts. That is
[10:12] not witness consciousness. That's an
[10:14] active act of mind
[10:16] judging a lower layer of mind which is
[10:19] fine. Fine. It stimulates you to do
[10:22] better. Watch your food. Watch your
[10:24] eating. Keep your watch on your thoughts
[10:25] carefully. They say that right. Keep
[10:28] watch on your thoughts carefully. That
[10:29] is not the witness keeping watch on the
[10:31] thoughts. That is your mind. How do you
[10:34] know what your thoughts are supposed to
[10:35] be? Somebody told you some book you read
[10:38] some teacher some something. All right.
[10:40] They told you you shouldn't have those
[10:42] thoughts. Those are bad thoughts. That's
[10:44] a really good thought. All right. You
[10:46] have to catch it to judge it. If you
[10:49] don't catch it, it goes right. They
[10:51] asked Ramachrishna. And I said it all
[10:52] the time. Great enlightened master. Does
[10:55] an enlightened being, totally liberated
[10:57] being ever feel anger? And he said,
[11:00] "Yes, but it's like writing on water."
[11:03] What's the difference? Go write on
[11:05] water. Good. Write it. Come on. Write an
[11:07] essay. No one will ever see it. No one
[11:09] will ever read it. Doesn't even say for
[11:11] one bit of a second. It just passes
[11:13] right through. That's witness
[11:14] consciousness. You notice that you
[11:17] notice.
[11:19] That's all. You're not looking for it.
[11:21] You're looking away from it. You're not
[11:24] judging it. You're just in there like a
[11:27] camera noticing what passes before. It
[11:30] passes just It's called just seeing.
[11:32] That's a very Zen thing. Just seeing as
[11:36] a story, a beautiful story out of the
[11:37] Zen tradition. We're being Zen tonight,
[11:40] okay? where there was a a student who
[11:44] stayed in in the monastery and he would
[11:46] go by and have we call it satsang but
[11:49] sashin or whatever the Buddhists call it
[11:51] with the master once a day. So this
[11:54] student was walking by and there's this
[11:57] giant oak tree that's been there growing
[11:59] in the plaza and he walks by and he
[12:02] walks in sits down with the master and
[12:05] the master says
[12:07] what has changed in you child
[12:10] there's all this light around you what
[12:14] what what changed you weren't this way
[12:15] yesterday what happened
[12:18] well I was walking through the plaza
[12:21] and I saw that oak tree. I saw the oak
[12:24] tree
[12:26] and something happened. I don't know.
[12:29] And here I am. And the master said,
[12:31] "You've walked past that oak tree every
[12:33] single day since you've been here. What
[12:35] you talking about?" He said, "But this
[12:38] time I saw just tree. It wasn't an oak
[12:41] tree that my father planted once or a
[12:44] forest of no polluting and the oak tree
[12:46] is going to die or oh, oh my god, look
[12:48] how old it is. It must be one of the
[12:49] oldest oak." Nothing happened. And there
[12:52] was just tree. That was what that's the
[12:54] teaching. It was just tree. [snorts]
[12:58] And that's a very high state I've been
[13:00] talking to you about. It passed through
[13:02] and you're now a different person. When
[13:05] it becomes just life, everything is just
[13:08] what it is. There's nobody in there
[13:10] judging it. There's nobody there
[13:12] stopping it. Nobody catching it.
[13:13] Somebody comes up to you and yells at
[13:15] you. There's just yelling.
[13:17] There's just this kind of thought. It
[13:21] just passes right through. I don't know
[13:22] what else how to describe it to you. But
[13:24] that's was meant by just tree which is
[13:27] very zen. You'll see that it's just
[13:29] being just tree. There's nobody catching
[13:32] it. It's not that it's not there. It's
[13:35] just you're not doing anything about it.
[13:37] It's just passing right through. What
[13:39] happens then? The next moment happens.
[13:43] Nobody held on to the last moment so
[13:45] that you're now not pure enough to
[13:47] experience the next moment because
[13:49] you're still lost in your judgments,
[13:51] your thoughts, your impressions of the
[13:53] old last moment. That's not be here now.
[13:56] There's all be here now stuff. Okay? Can
[13:59] you do that? No, you can't do that yet.
[14:01] Why have a lot of talk about that? Can
[14:03] you do that? Yes. Is that a major stage
[14:07] in your liberation? Yes, it is. Yes, it
[14:10] is. In fact, I sometime I never get to
[14:12] that next stage. Let's talk about that.
[14:14] So now you're there being there, okay,
[14:18] and doing. Okay, fine. Eventually, and
[14:22] we'll discuss how you get there. You're
[14:24] not You're just noticing. You're just
[14:28] seeing what's going on in there.
[14:30] Nobody's catching it. Nobody's letting
[14:32] go. Not letting go. You're just
[14:35] noticing.
[14:36] That isn't even a high state. That is
[14:40] that's way below where the masters go.
[14:42] Why? Because you're still there. You're
[14:45] not doing anything. You're judging it.
[14:48] You're fighting it. You're letting it
[14:50] go. You're not stopping it. There's
[14:52] nobody doing anything. But you are still
[14:54] aware that you are separate.
[14:58] This is me. You're saying it, but this
[15:01] is me noticing what's going on down
[15:03] there. That's a beautiful state. That's
[15:05] witness consciousness. Okay? It's true
[15:07] witness consciousness, right? There are
[15:09] much higher states. What you mean with
[15:12] the master's plan went and I will use
[15:16] their words is you get to that state and
[15:20] you just been noticing for a long time.
[15:23] And guess what that means? You don't
[15:25] need to be there anymore.
[15:27] There's no reason for you to be not
[15:29] doing anything and judging anything or
[15:31] catching anything or letting anything
[15:32] go. There's no more letting go. There's
[15:34] no more doing. There's no more not
[15:35] doing. You're just there. Well, at some
[15:38] point it happens naturally. You can't
[15:40] make it happen. It's not an act of will.
[15:43] It's part of evolution. You just
[15:45] naturally notice. Don't think you just
[15:48] notice that you don't need to be there.
[15:51] You're not doing anything. And because
[15:53] you don't need to be there, it goes back
[15:56] to another level. It starts to expand
[15:58] out. You're your focused consciousness
[16:01] noticing. I'll give it to you. You're
[16:02] noticing what you're looking at. You're
[16:04] noticing a body. You're noticing there's
[16:06] a world out there. You're noticing their
[16:08] thoughts. You're noticing their
[16:09] emotions. Nobody's doing anything about
[16:10] them. They're just coming and going in
[16:12] beautiful free flow. It's beautiful
[16:13] statew consciousness. All right? No
[16:16] stress, no anxiety, no fears, no
[16:18] nothing. You're just experiencing
[16:21] humanness. You're experiencing life.
[16:23] Okay? At some point, because you've been
[16:26] there long enough, you realize you don't
[16:29] think it. It just happens naturally. You
[16:32] don't need to be there. not doing
[16:34] anything. Why do you need your inner
[16:37] consciousness need to be focused on this
[16:40] body, this mind, these emotions? And the
[16:43] answer is it doesn't have to. It just
[16:46] got in the habit of doing that of
[16:48] focusing and it starts to let go at a
[16:51] whole another level than when
[16:52] consciousness. It starts to let go of
[16:55] the consciousness that's looking that's
[16:58] even seeing even seeing what is seeing
[17:02] and it starts to float back it starts to
[17:04] expand out naturally. I always teach in
[17:08] the 60s they always said you want
[17:09] expanded consciousness. No, you want to
[17:12] not contract your consciousness. Your
[17:15] awareness is already completely expanded
[17:18] throughout the entire universe. That's
[17:20] what enlightenment is. When you let go
[17:22] at the level I'm talking about of
[17:25] needing to be there to see what's going
[17:27] on, [laughter] right? And not to mention
[17:29] do something about it. You need to be
[17:30] there because your thoughts are a
[17:32] problem. You're be careful about eating
[17:34] too much. was be there and judge, be
[17:37] there and be the gatekeeper. That
[17:40] doesn't mean that you go out there and
[17:42] throw parties and have sex freedoms and
[17:44] and food, eat whatever you want. And
[17:46] it's not saying that when you no longer
[17:49] have any urges to do that because you
[17:52] haven't blocked anything inside that's
[17:54] hitting your garbage causing you to want
[17:56] to release all these energies. It's not
[17:58] renunciation.
[18:00] Renociation is child play. If you have
[18:03] to renounce, it means there's something
[18:04] you'd rather be doing than renouncing.
[18:06] How do you choose what to renounce? I
[18:08] don't like Brussels sprouts. I'm going
[18:10] to give them up for land. No, that
[18:12] doesn't count. So, if you have needs and
[18:15] you have desires and you have fears,
[18:18] you're going to be doing something. And
[18:20] therefore, you best discipline yourself
[18:22] and and make sure you're not giving in
[18:24] to all that garbage. And I have to
[18:26] figure out what's okay. What's okay to
[18:28] give into what's okay to not? Where's
[18:30] the balance? Oh, everyone ask me those
[18:31] questions. Where's the bounce point when
[18:33] I should do something or shouldn't do
[18:34] someday there will not be a question
[18:36] like that ever in your mind because you
[18:38] notice it doesn't matter it doesn't
[18:40] matter if I go this way then something's
[18:42] going to have go that way something's
[18:44] going to happen and I don't have to
[18:45] decide you have to be fine I just be
[18:48] fine with that moment of decision and
[18:50] fine with the results okay but you're
[18:52] not thinking it out so in any event at
[18:55] some point that urge that you have to
[18:58] control and manipulate because it would
[19:00] go out and cause trouble and squaring
[19:03] up. You don't have that anymore. I'm
[19:06] sorry to tell you there are no needs.
[19:09] There are no fears. You can said you
[19:12] sure told him his guru told him if a
[19:14] lion jumps at you feel fear. But if
[19:17] somebody doesn't say hello or if you
[19:19] think that somebody's judging you that's
[19:20] ridiculous. There's nothing happening.
[19:23] All right. So that that kind of fear
[19:25] psychological fear but there's no
[19:27] desires. Oh, I want to live a life with
[19:29] no desires. Hey, wait. Do you find out?
[19:31] But no desires doesn't mean I'm
[19:33] suppressing my desires. That's an act of
[19:35] will. So it's very hard for you to
[19:37] listen to because but I want you to hear
[19:39] the state. Okay. If you're done. I used
[19:42] to talk about being done. When are you
[19:44] done? When you're done. I'm done eating.
[19:47] How do you know? I don't want anymore.
[19:50] But don't you want more? No, I don't.
[19:52] And there's nothing inside of us asking
[19:54] me to do more. And what about a
[19:56] relationship? Well, sometimes there's
[19:58] good times, sometimes there bad times.
[19:59] the relationship is you okay with that?
[20:01] Of course, I'm okay with that. I don't
[20:02] do anything about it. I could change the
[20:05] person so the way I want them to be. You
[20:07] don't have that anymore.
[20:10] And my experience is the only way that's
[20:12] really goes away is with this great
[20:15] teacher that you have. I heard you had
[20:16] it. It's called life
[20:19] pushes some changes, don't it? Life puts
[20:21] you through some changes. You find that
[20:23] over time you're not the same person and
[20:26] a little freer maybe about certain
[20:27] things and not as grabby and not as
[20:29] needy and not as jealous and not as
[20:32] fearful. How about this? Been there,
[20:34] done that. That's a real teaching, isn't
[20:37] it? It's not somebody told you what to
[20:39] do. You did the best you could and you
[20:42] learned. You grew. You little words
[20:45] grew. The right word is evolve. People
[20:47] talking about the evolution of the soul.
[20:48] That's what we're talking about. that
[20:50] you back there that would be busy doing
[20:52] and grabbing and judging at some point
[20:56] about certain thing not everything about
[20:58] certain things I'm done I don't need
[21:00] that anymore I don't have to think it
[21:02] even there's nothing in me that is
[21:05] trying to hold on to that or push that
[21:07] away I'm comfortable with it then you
[21:09] evolved
[21:11] that's different than learning you
[21:13] literally evolved most of you guys maybe
[21:16] when you were little you played with
[21:18] dolls or with little trucks
[21:20] Okay. And they were the most important
[21:22] thing. You had this really special one,
[21:24] right? Oh, you held on that doll, didn't
[21:26] you? Right. And hold on that truck and
[21:28] the baseball or whatever it was, right?
[21:30] Well, you're not doing that anymore. Did
[21:32] you renounce it? No. I outgrew it. I
[21:35] lick these words. I evolved past that to
[21:39] that is not what it's about. You change.
[21:43] So, you grow through things. Used to be
[21:45] all about money. Maybe you guys at one
[21:48] point I just oh it's all about how much
[21:50] money I have and and you realize it's
[21:52] not. How'd you realize that? But
[21:54] suppressing if you suppress it still is
[21:57] there. Although we wouldn't have to
[21:58] suppress it. The fact is you still have
[22:01] this thinking that it's about money.
[22:03] It's about relationships. It's about
[22:05] sex. It's about these different things.
[22:07] But I'm not supposed to be like that.
[22:09] I'm a spiritual person, spiritual ego,
[22:12] right? So I'm going to suppress those
[22:13] things. Now I'm not about them. You are.
[22:16] So otherwise you wouldn't have to push
[22:17] them away. But how do they come back up?
[22:19] No, don't think like that. Don't be like
[22:21] that. Now, can you hear me? Anybody? All
[22:24] right. But I'm not telling you to not be
[22:25] like that. You have to go through what
[22:27] you need to go through. That's all I can
[22:28] tell you. But there are ways to go
[22:30] through it very quickly. I'm painting a
[22:32] picture for you that when you are done
[22:36] with something, that's a very spiritual
[22:37] state. Not I'm done with you. That's not
[22:41] done. That's you suppressing and trying
[22:43] to stay away from it. But when it
[22:45] doesn't even I tell you like the white
[22:47] lines in the road, you really freak out
[22:49] when they're yellow instead of white,
[22:50] don't you? No, they just notice there's
[22:53] witness consciousness. You notice
[22:55] they're yellow. You notice they're
[22:57] white. You don't do anything about it.
[22:59] That's how it becomes when you're done
[23:00] with something. You have to do anything
[23:02] about it. And we'll talk more about how
[23:05] life takes you to that state and how to
[23:07] work with that. But at this point I'm
[23:09] saying when you're done enough
[23:13] there are no desires. There are basic
[23:16] needs. Food, clothing, shelter. That's
[23:18] not a desire. That's the body's needs.
[23:21] Okay? Better to be some fancy house. Has
[23:23] to be some fancy food that's exactly the
[23:26] way you want it to be. It tastes just
[23:27] what you want, the right amount. That's
[23:29] not food, clothing, and shelter. That's
[23:31] need. I need it to taste this way. I
[23:33] need to be like that. I need a bigger
[23:34] portion, little portion. I need this. I
[23:36] need that. I need that. I need I need I
[23:39] need I need. All right. When you're done
[23:42] with the basics, you don't have needs.
[23:46] You realize that just had me caught
[23:49] trying to compensate for my problems by
[23:52] having these needs and trying to satisfy
[23:54] them. I'm not tell you not to have
[23:56] needs. You know, I did. But you're gonna
[23:58] give gave a talk called desire my great
[24:02] enemy. But that's going to make you
[24:03] suppress it. That make you think I'm
[24:05] also have desires. No, no. You're
[24:08] supposed to not have desires. Not not
[24:10] have desires. See the difference? It's
[24:12] like, I I caught it and I don't like
[24:14] having these desires. I shouldn't have
[24:15] these desires. That's not having
[24:17] desires. That's not wanting to have
[24:19] desires and therefore pushing them away.
[24:22] If you push them away, they're still
[24:23] there and you keep pushing them away.
[24:24] I've talked about it over and over
[24:25] again. But you will get to a point and
[24:28] you will. Meditation helps. Life helps.
[24:31] Life helps. Everything helps. Everything
[24:33] helps if you're open. And we'll talk
[24:35] about that more in a minute. If you work
[24:38] your way through it, but you don't even,
[24:40] it's not even you doing it. It just been
[24:43] there, done that. If you did it, there's
[24:46] not been there, done that. I'm busy
[24:47] doing it. If it just Okay. Okay. Okay.
[24:52] I've had relationships. Some of them
[24:55] work. Some of them don't. I'm not
[24:57] against them. I'm not for them. I'm not
[25:00] waiting for my soulmate to show up. I'm
[25:02] not doing anything. I just don't feel
[25:05] the need I used to have. Does that mean
[25:07] I won't have a relationship? No. That's
[25:09] wonderful, right? But I don't need it.
[25:12] I'm fine without it. I've learned I just
[25:15] learned that I'm fine. I'm fine. Okay.
[25:18] But but you're a social animal. I am
[25:20] not. I'm the self. I am the self. Whole
[25:24] and complete within myself. You
[25:26] understand that the consciousness is
[25:28] whole within itself. But you can't make
[25:30] yourself be that way. It has to be
[25:32] something you learn. Has to be something
[25:34] you grew through. Has to be something
[25:36] you reach that state of evolution. How's
[25:38] that? Animals evolve through their
[25:40] bodies. You evolve through your inner
[25:42] being. You have all these experiences.
[25:44] So what happens if there isn't these
[25:47] needs? Then there's no need for someone
[25:50] to be there handling the needs. There's
[25:52] need to be a gatekeeper. Doesn't need
[25:54] somebody in there who's checking it out
[25:57] because there are no needs. It's fine
[25:59] with it, fine without it. There's no
[26:01] success. There's no failure. There's no
[26:02] like. There's no dislike. Why? How can
[26:05] there be no like or dislike? I don't
[26:06] know. Does it mean somebody say been
[26:08] there, done that? Have you seen enough
[26:10] likes and dislikes as you walk through
[26:12] your life to catch on that there will
[26:14] always be likes and dislikes? You
[26:16] struggle to get the what you want. You
[26:18] struggle to stay away from what you
[26:19] don't want. And you just end up
[26:20] struggling. And at some point, you wake
[26:22] up and say, I don't think so. I think I
[26:25] can handle what's h there. I can handle
[26:28] it. Not I can deal with it. I can handle
[26:31] it. It's fine. It's reality. I I don't
[26:34] have to stop it and judge it and work
[26:36] with it. You talking about you should
[26:37] need to work on yourself. Someday you
[26:39] will never have to work on yourself
[26:41] because there's nothing in there that
[26:42] needs to be worked on anymore. It's not
[26:44] doing the desire and need thing. Okay?
[26:47] It fell away. That's what it does. It
[26:49] falls off when you've been there, done
[26:51] that. You're not making it do that. It
[26:53] just does that because you grew. I don't
[26:55] know what to tell you. You've been
[26:57] through it. You've been so many things.
[26:58] You're not the same person. Somebody not
[27:00] the same person you were yesterday. All
[27:01] right? It's just you keep changing. You
[27:03] keep growing and hopefully you're
[27:05] growing in the right direction which is
[27:07] you let go. When you're in there into
[27:10] the deep states of witness where
[27:12] nobody's touching anything you're just
[27:14] noticing it like Ramachrishna. It
[27:16] doesn't matter if anger comes up fine.
[27:18] It passes through who cares? What harm
[27:20] does anger do if you go nothing?
[27:23] Nothing. Why judge it? Why say I'm not
[27:25] supposed to feel anger? Who said it's
[27:27] language is part of the human stuff,
[27:29] right? But you don't touch it. You
[27:31] didn't do anything about it. I don't
[27:32] have to catch it and release it and
[27:34] figure out how to deal with this anger,
[27:35] right? Come on. You felt anger. You
[27:38] better deal with it. Otherwise, you yell
[27:39] at somebody or hit somebody or cause all
[27:41] kinds of trouble when it just passes
[27:44] right through like the breeze. What do
[27:46] you do about the breeze? Reasonable 10
[27:48] mph breeze. I stop it. I can't handle
[27:51] it. What if you can handle it? Then you
[27:54] don't touch it. You don't need to touch
[27:56] it. You're not not touching it. I don't
[27:58] know how to talk about this, right?
[27:59] You're not not touching it. You're not
[28:01] touching it. There's no reason to touch
[28:03] it. It's just a nice breeze blows
[28:05] through. Anger can be that things can be
[28:07] I'm not telling you they should be, but
[28:08] they they just come and go. There's
[28:11] energy passing through. And if you don't
[28:13] touch it, but if you have the tendency
[28:16] to touch it, you've already touched it.
[28:19] You caught it and I should let this go.
[28:21] Right? It's when you get very high
[28:23] there's no tendency to touch it. Doesn't
[28:25] mean it's not there. It just passes
[28:27] right through. Well, I was talking about
[28:28] the higher states. Once you reach that
[28:31] state, which is true with this
[28:32] consciousness, there's no reason to be
[28:34] there focusing on yourself. There's no
[28:36] reason to be noticing or focusing on the
[28:39] thoughts. They're fine. They just come
[28:41] and go. And what happens? They release
[28:43] their bondage that they have on you. You
[28:46] used to have to watch the thoughts,
[28:47] watch the emotions, watch the world. Now
[28:49] you don't because nothing's happening in
[28:52] there. It's fine. And it naturally lets
[28:54] go. It says you don't do it. It
[28:56] naturally doesn't have to be there. So
[28:58] it's not and it starts to drift up.
[29:00] That's why I was telling you it's not
[29:02] about expanding your consciousness. It's
[29:04] about ceasing to contract your
[29:06] consciousness. You're contracting your
[29:08] conscious by staring at you, by staring
[29:10] at your thoughts and staring at your
[29:11] emotions, staring at your feeling, all
[29:13] that. Right? It it focuses down to this
[29:15] point. As that ceases to bind you, to
[29:18] distract you, it naturally goes back to
[29:22] its source. And the great ones went all
[29:24] the way back. They went all the way
[29:26] back. They talk about that moment of
[29:29] letting go of your sense of
[29:30] individuality. It's not something you
[29:32] do. It's something you let happen. And
[29:34] they talk about how difficult that is.
[29:36] That's what Christ meant by dying to be
[29:37] reborn. You literally let go of this
[29:41] sense of individuality because you're
[29:43] not individual. you're the divine
[29:45] consciousness focusing on your stuff as
[29:48] you I'll go deeper but as you don't need
[29:51] to do that then it doesn't happen and
[29:54] enlightenment is a very natural state in
[29:56] fact I tell you guys you're already
[29:58] fully enlightened that is where you in
[30:01] there you're conscious in there the
[30:03] source of that awareness is the divine
[30:05] oneness you are already there but you're
[30:08] being distracted by what you think you
[30:11] still need to deal with you Right?
[30:14] [laughter] And then the consciousness
[30:15] gets pulled down to this focal point.
[30:18] Okay? So we started with witness
[30:20] consciousness saying that it's not about
[30:22] catching it, looking at it and then
[30:24] letting it go. It's about noticing just
[30:27] noticing it. All right. Nice discussion.
[30:29] And I hope you can feel the inspiration
[30:31] of what a great being you are. I'm
[30:34] telling you, you are with Christ. You
[30:36] are with Buddha. You are with all the
[30:38] great masters. That's where you are
[30:39] right now. Not later, not someday. But
[30:42] you're focusing on this mind and on this
[30:45] stuff. So how do you get there? They
[30:47] give you all kinds of techniques and
[30:49] they're wonderful. I always tell you
[30:51] whatever your teachings are, whatever
[30:52] your techniques, some of them are pretty
[30:55] weird. Whatever helps you to let go of
[30:58] yourself, that's the essence. It's all
[31:01] about letting go of yourself. If you're
[31:03] in there and you catch on that this eye
[31:07] in here that keeps coming up, I want
[31:10] this. I need this. I like this. What if
[31:13] every time the eye showed his face, I
[31:15] relaxed,
[31:17] not controlled it, not suppressed it,
[31:19] not hugged it, right? Just just relax.
[31:24] Then it starts to fall away. And that's
[31:27] my experiences of all my years of 55
[31:30] years, right? The highest technique is
[31:33] letting go of yourself, is dying to be
[31:35] reborn. Mayba said, "Man minus mind
[31:38] equals God." If you're willing to let go
[31:41] of everything that comes up as it comes
[31:43] up, not control it, not judge it, just
[31:47] okay. And you don't even wait till it
[31:49] comes up. There's a point at which it
[31:51] starts to come up. You see it. You see
[31:53] it. You see when you're getting weird.
[31:55] Don't tell me you don't. You see when
[31:57] you get in a mood. You see when you feel
[31:59] angry. You see when you feel jealous.
[32:00] You see when you feel scared. You see
[32:02] this stuff, don't you? And you actually
[32:04] see it right when it starts. But you
[32:06] want to check it out. You want to find
[32:07] out why do I feel fear? What what
[32:10] happened? What did this person do? Why
[32:11] do I feel jealous? What are they doing?
[32:13] You still want to go down there and get
[32:15] all involved in the junk. You think I
[32:17] can work it out? Which is fine. You
[32:19] know, just do the best you can. But it's
[32:21] said and done when you're ready,
[32:24] willing, and able to be an explorer.
[32:27] Your life's [clears throat] here is
[32:28] going to be gone in 80, 90 years. You
[32:30] hear me? Are you willing to explore
[32:32] reality? Check it out. Then every time
[32:35] it starts to come up, you relax. Keep
[32:38] your hands to yourself and let it go to
[32:41] the best it can. Doesn't mean it's going
[32:42] to go every time, but over time it goes.
[32:46] And what happens with it is you start
[32:48] reaching states of been there, done that
[32:51] without having to do the karma, without
[32:53] having to go through all those
[32:55] experiences that we have to some you
[32:57] have to go through. We'll talk about
[32:58] that in a second. But if you can relax
[33:00] through it, you'll start noticing it
[33:02] doesn't bother me anymore. I had a
[33:05] friend who once told me, I'll never
[33:06] forget it was years and years ago. He
[33:08] said, 'I guess I'm really growing. He
[33:10] was out here for many years, I guess I'm
[33:12] really growing. And I said, why? He
[33:13] said, I was at work and something
[33:17] happened at work. I didn't even I
[33:18] noticed and I was driving away and I
[33:20] noticed that would have bothered me. I
[33:24] didn't even notice it. It just it was
[33:26] like anything like the white lines in
[33:27] the road. There you grew. Okay. But one
[33:31] way you grow very quickly is to
[33:34] participate in the process of letting go
[33:36] of yourself as opposed to having to go
[33:39] through all this stuff outside
[33:41] which is fine. I don't ever want you to
[33:43] think that I'm teaching you not to go
[33:45] through what you need to go through. But
[33:46] if you ask me how do I know that I need
[33:48] to go through it? You don't want to talk
[33:50] to me. Now your new book goes into all
[33:51] this stuff, right? Very deep, deep
[33:53] questions, you know, wisdom and
[33:55] tethered. How do I know if I need to go
[33:57] through it? If you're asking me, you
[33:59] probably don't need to go through it. If
[34:01] you find that you're in it and look back
[34:03] later, how do you get here? You probably
[34:05] needed to go through it. See the
[34:06] difference? It's like there's a lot of
[34:09] energy in there. It can sweep you away,
[34:11] can't it? And you go through what you
[34:13] need to go through because it swept you
[34:15] away. Swept away with fear, swept away
[34:16] with love, swept you away with
[34:18] attraction, with whatever it is. Okay?
[34:20] Or it swept you away with
[34:21] self-consciousness. I'm embarrassed. I I
[34:24] don't want to do anything. You don't
[34:25] have a choice. You're writing me saying,
[34:27] "Mickey, what do I do if I notice that
[34:29] I'm embarrassed?" No, you don't notice
[34:32] anything. You're lost in it. That's when
[34:34] you know you need to go through it. You
[34:35] You're going through it. You've been
[34:37] there. There have been situations in
[34:38] your life you didn't decide. It just
[34:41] caught you. It was like a wave of fear,
[34:43] of anger, or jealousy or love, whatever
[34:46] it is just swept you away. You didn't
[34:48] write me and say, "Should I go with
[34:49] that?" Because then you're still there.
[34:52] You're still there thinking there's a
[34:54] choice. Okay. Yes. Anybody listening,
[34:57] have you noticed that it can do that?
[34:58] Can sweep you away and you look back,
[35:00] how do I get here? We can get pretty
[35:02] lost, can't we? Ever get really lost?
[35:06] But that's a growth experience. There's
[35:08] nothing wrong with getting lost. If you
[35:10] do the best that you can every moment to
[35:13] let go of what's coming up and then you
[35:16] find that something sweeps you away and
[35:18] you look back or don't look back, you're
[35:20] still caught up in it. I'm telling you,
[35:22] that's how you grow. Because at the end
[35:24] of that, you say, "Oh, been there, done
[35:28] that." You went through it. I've been
[35:31] through that. I've been through that
[35:32] first attraction and just falling in
[35:35] love, thinking it's going to last
[35:36] forever. Anybody been there? Oh, you and
[35:39] then realizing, well, it didn't. It
[35:43] literally didn't. I loved them with all
[35:44] my heart. When I was getting married, I
[35:46] wasn't thinking about what we're going
[35:47] to do when we get divorced. Somebody
[35:48] once said, it was one of the movies. I
[35:50] remember that they talked about that and
[35:52] they said marriage is not a choice when
[35:54] you have no choice. It just swept you
[35:57] away and you can't think of anything
[35:58] else and you're totally lost in this. Go
[36:01] ahead and get married. [laughter] It's a
[36:02] very good thing as opposed to figuring
[36:04] out legally how old somebody going to be
[36:06] when you're old and how many kids you're
[36:07] going to have, right? That's not exactly
[36:11] being swept away. But if you are swept
[36:13] away and you go with it, it sweeps you
[36:15] away. There's real learning to do, you
[36:18] know, in their thinking. I have stuff to
[36:20] learn. But you know, then the divorce
[36:22] shows up 3, four years later and all
[36:25] this ugliness is going on. I hope you're
[36:27] conscious enough not to get scarred by
[36:30] it, but say thank you. Thank you for the
[36:32] experience and realize, well, I've been
[36:35] there. I've seen that. I've seen how it
[36:37] can be like that and be swept away
[36:39] completely. And then it changes. They
[36:42] change. I change. Everything changes.
[36:45] And it's not like that. There's nothing
[36:47] wrong with that. You go through it and
[36:49] you learn something like learning tennis
[36:51] or learning learning an instrument. You
[36:53] learn. Life's your teacher. But if
[36:55] you're sitting there thinking, I don't
[36:56] have to go through this, but it'll be
[36:58] fun. But I care. I don't care. I'll
[37:00] throw the dice. Well, that's different.
[37:02] Okay. Now, we get some karma. Now, you
[37:05] didn't have to go through that. You
[37:06] chose to go through that. And it usually
[37:08] gets pretty ugly. You understand that?
[37:10] As I don't use the word karma with you
[37:12] guys. I'd rather call it a growth
[37:14] experience. But if you purposely did it
[37:16] and knew it was out of balance, what's
[37:19] going to come back is pretty harsh. See
[37:21] the difference? Okay. So now you're
[37:24] learning as you walk through your life
[37:26] or excuse me, as you're pulled through
[37:28] life, you get to the point where you can
[37:31] feel I grew. That's all I can tell you.
[37:33] I grew. As you get older, you certainly
[37:35] start. Some people I'm just amazed how
[37:37] many older people still have all these
[37:39] desires and cravings and bucket lists
[37:42] and all kinds of stuff as opposed to
[37:45] I've been there done that full life full
[37:48] of it right I I learned my lessons can
[37:51] you learn your lessons and I feel good
[37:53] about it I feel very good about it
[37:56] that's that's what it means to mature as
[37:57] you get older in any event so you'll go
[38:00] through these processes of growing of
[38:03] evolution and you are literally evolving
[38:05] what does that I am evolving inside. So
[38:07] I'm not clinging and holding and
[38:09] grabbing. I'm opening. I'm opening. And
[38:12] that will help you go back further. And
[38:14] witness consciousness becomes a natural
[38:15] state. What happens if I've talked about
[38:18] it. What happens if I screw things up?
[38:22] You can't screw things up. You can do
[38:25] the best that you can with the awareness
[38:28] that you have. And I don't like that you
[38:30] ever look at yourself later and say, "I
[38:32] screwed it up." The only way you screwed
[38:35] it up is if you knew it was full of it.
[38:37] You did it anyways and it caused
[38:39] trouble. You get to look at that. But if
[38:42] you're doing the best you can to see
[38:44] what's going on and make some good
[38:46] decisions and do the best you can with
[38:49] the energy that you're working with and
[38:50] you find out later that you grew enough
[38:53] that you would not have done that again,
[38:55] don't you dare look back and feel guilt.
[38:58] Don't you dare look back and feel shame.
[39:00] You grew. You're not the same person.
[39:02] You should look back at that person that
[39:04] made the mistake and say, "Thank you.
[39:07] Thank you for going through the growth
[39:10] that we had to go through to get where I
[39:12] am now." And what's going to happen as
[39:14] you keep letting go? There's more and
[39:16] more joy. And that's what you mean by to
[39:18] get where I am now. I'm doing much
[39:20] better now. But I had to go through what
[39:22] I had to go through. The divorce taught
[39:24] me a lot. I could see where I was
[39:26] screwing things up. It wasn't really
[39:27] just him or her and so on. And and you
[39:30] just you grew. I don't know what to tell
[39:32] you. You're allowed to grow. You're
[39:34] supposed to grow. Earth is a place of
[39:36] souls are sent to evolve. Okay? That's
[39:39] called a mature spiritual being who's
[39:41] growing, but you don't purposely do it
[39:44] so you can grow. It's just life takes
[39:46] you through what you need to go through
[39:48] and you learn and you grow. So, you go
[39:51] through what you need to go through. And
[39:52] what that means is life will take you on
[39:54] the journey, the long and windy road
[39:56] that you need to go through. You do the
[39:59] best that you can to let go. You still
[40:01] do. You're doing the best you can to let
[40:02] go. Let go of what? You know what? Don't
[40:05] you dare ask me what. Every one of you
[40:07] know exactly what you should be letting
[40:09] go of. All right. What comes up and
[40:11] causes that trouble and could cause more
[40:13] trouble. And you just do the best you
[40:15] can. If everyone does the best that they
[40:17] can, the best you can is always good
[40:19] enough. I'm not giving you permission to
[40:22] do stupid things, but if you do the best
[40:24] that you can, don't you dare judge.
[40:27] Don't you dare look back and judge who
[40:29] you used to be. All right? Why why
[40:32] bother growing? You feel guilt about the
[40:34] growth you went through. Okay? So now
[40:37] look what happens. You're naturally
[40:39] evolving. You're naturally being able to
[40:41] handle things you couldn't handle
[40:43] before. How do you know? Cuz you can
[40:45] handle them. And you just keep growing.
[40:47] If you do this, you will find that
[40:50] you're further back. Why? Because you're
[40:52] not being pulled down by what? desires
[40:55] and fears and anxieties and likes and
[40:57] dislikes and, you know, being pulled
[40:59] down by all that garbage that's
[41:01] distracting your consciousness. Now,
[41:03] it's much cleaner than that. And so, as
[41:05] you let go, you float back. It's just
[41:07] it's called the ascent. That's the
[41:09] ascent. It's not something you do. I
[41:12] told you it's like like having a hot air
[41:14] balloon or a helium balloon and it's
[41:16] tethered to the ground. Keep trying to
[41:17] raise it up. Put more air in it. Put
[41:19] more hot air in it. Put more helium in
[41:21] it. No, it's just going to bounce up and
[41:22] down. It's not going to do anything. Cut
[41:24] the tethers. What's going to happen?
[41:26] Effortlessly it will go up by itself.
[41:29] That's what you're doing when you let go
[41:31] of yourself. So you don't have to try
[41:33] and evolve. Don't try to evolve.
[41:35] Evolution is a natural process. And if
[41:37] you're willing, the master talk about
[41:39] it. The masters do talk about. Are you
[41:41] willing to work with the evolutionary
[41:43] process as opposed to against the
[41:45] evolutionary process? If you're in there
[41:47] realizing I want to evolve where I am
[41:50] today, I won't be tomorrow. That's okay.
[41:53] So, I'll be letting go as best I can,
[41:55] letting go of the tendencies that are
[41:57] holding me down. And you know what they
[41:59] are. And don't you dare tell me you
[42:00] don't know what they are. Just don't
[42:02] want to deal with it. Okay? And if you
[42:04] don't know what they are, then you need
[42:05] to go through it. I love it. Thank you.
[42:08] Anybody see the difference? Otherwise,
[42:10] are you dealing with the stuff that you
[42:12] know is full of it inside of you? No.
[42:15] It's too hard. It hurts. If I can let go
[42:18] of all this stuff I store from the past.
[42:20] Why? It's painful. Good. Don't you get
[42:23] it? You don't want that stuff in there.
[42:25] Those are the anchors that hold you
[42:26] down. So, when you're willing to sit
[42:28] there and say, "Take me through what I
[42:30] need to go through. I'll scream and
[42:32] yell, but just take me through what I
[42:35] need to go through so I can get free and
[42:38] liberated." But you can't do it. You
[42:41] have to let it happen. Is it going to be
[42:43] painful? Sure. You store all this stuff
[42:45] in there and it comes up. It's hard.
[42:47] It's difficult. Have compassion with
[42:49] understanding. do the best you can to
[42:52] relax through it and keep relaxing
[42:53] through it. You're evolving. And until
[42:56] you eventually get to the point where
[42:57] the things that you thought you couldn't
[42:59] handle, you don't even notice,
[43:01] right? They're just, "Okay, fine. Been
[43:04] there, done that. I've been through
[43:06] that. I've seen that. Okay. I have I
[43:09] [clears throat] have this blemish on my
[43:11] face and I have to go to the senior prom
[43:14] in high school. Boy, that's a drama.
[43:17] What am I going to do?" All right. And
[43:18] so he's like, "Fine. It's nothing."
[43:21] Right? You grow up and all of a sudden
[43:24] it doesn't matter. It's not that's not
[43:26] there. It doesn't matter. Right? You
[43:29] just realize the world's not the way you
[43:31] think it is. Not everybody's staring at
[43:33] you judging. You think they are because
[43:35] you're doing it to yourself. They're too
[43:36] busy doing it to themselves. Right? You
[43:39] start to catch on. Doesn't matter what
[43:41] people think. It doesn't matter. That's
[43:43] that's a good one. Does it matter to you
[43:45] what people think? Does it matter if
[43:46] people like you or not? Where do you see
[43:48] that one go away? Can we spend a second
[43:50] with that one? That's a big one. They
[43:53] don't like you or not like you. They
[43:57] either like or don't like the part of
[43:59] themselves that came up in your
[44:01] presence. You don't know whether they
[44:03] like you. They had totally different
[44:05] lives than you. They totally different
[44:07] experiences. The very thing that you
[44:08] think is turning them on e, they're
[44:11] inside turning them off, right? How do
[44:13] you know what somebody else is thinking?
[44:15] you think you know because it's what you
[44:16] would be thinking. It's a major
[44:18] liberation to catch on. Don't ever think
[44:20] about what people think about you. Think
[44:22] about how you're doing inside. Do the
[44:24] best that you can because what you think
[44:26] they think about you. I used to check it
[44:28] out. Oh, I shouldn't tell you this. When
[44:31] I was started growing and I woke up in
[44:33] very early in the 70s, I first had my
[44:35] deep witness experiences. He would be a
[44:38] maniac in there. Mickey couldn't live
[44:40] with him. So, I tried to shut him up all
[44:42] the time. I very very zen, very
[44:44] disciplined. I would literally walk up
[44:46] to total strangers and say, "Were you
[44:49] judging my hair of a hippie wearing long
[44:52] hair?" And first look at me like, "No, I
[44:55] didn't even notice." Okay, chalk one up.
[44:58] Strike one. And I would just keep trying
[45:00] to show him how wrong he was. [laughter]
[45:02] And he was always wrong. How do you
[45:04] think you know what somebody else is
[45:06] thinking when you're psychic? You don't
[45:08] even realize that you're thinking and
[45:10] they're thinking what you're thinking.
[45:14] So you catch on that you don't have to
[45:17] do this and then you let go. It's a
[45:19] natural thing. It's not a forceful
[45:21] thing. Now you can be the witness. Now
[45:23] you're not looking what people think
[45:25] about you. Not looking who's staring at
[45:27] you. Not looking. It looks like somebody
[45:29] doesn't whatever. You're not not
[45:30] looking. You're just seeing. Going back
[45:32] to where I started. You're just in
[45:34] there. You're free. You get to how would
[45:36] I like to be free? How would I be free
[45:38] of all that stuff? Make a point of
[45:40] leaning away. Leaning away from
[45:43] yourself. Not pushing away. That's the
[45:45] highest thing I ever teach you. You're
[45:47] not pushing your lower self away. You're
[45:50] just leaning away from it so that it has
[45:52] freed to pass through. Just go on try
[45:55] sometime. Just lean away from ego. Don't
[45:58] push it away. Don't not like it. Just
[46:00] notice you got an ego. Got something in
[46:03] there. Care what people think about you
[46:04] and what you look like and listen to
[46:06] what you said three days ago. All right.
[46:09] You want that to pass? Let it pass.
[46:12] Don't push it back down. Don't suppress
[46:14] it. Don't not like it. Just realize,
[46:17] okay, there's ego being ego. There's a
[46:18] snake being a snake, a butterfly being a
[46:20] butterfly. There's ego being ego. I told
[46:23] you you got to be okay with it. Can you
[46:25] handle your ego, not be your ego and not
[46:28] not be your ego? You got one. Everyone's
[46:31] got one. Who's willing to lean away from
[46:34] it? Not touch it. Just lean away from
[46:36] it. Here it comes doing its thing. You
[46:38] keep leaning away. Eventually, you
[46:40] realize, I can handle [clears throat]
[46:42] that. I don't have to do anything about
[46:43] it. The more of life that you can
[46:45] handle, the less you have to be there to
[46:48] do something. That's called liberation.
[46:51] You become free. Doesn't mean you're not
[46:53] working. It doesn't mean have a
[46:54] relationship. Doesn't mean anything. It
[46:56] means you're not busy doing something.
[46:58] You're just flowing with life. You're
[47:00] being with life. You're serving.
[47:02] Eventually, instead of serving yourself,
[47:04] you serve life. just didn't think about
[47:06] it. You don't think you're serving life.
[47:07] It's just because you don't need
[47:08] anything. You just take care of what's
[47:10] in front of you. Just give. Just keep
[47:13] giving. And the reward of that is where
[47:15] we started is you're not in there
[47:19] staring. You're not in there looking.
[47:20] You're just seeing. And because you're
[47:22] just seeing, you notice fine, I just
[47:26] see. I don't do anything about it. You
[47:28] don't do anything about it. You don't
[47:29] have to be there to watch it. And this
[47:31] natural evolution of floating up, it
[47:35] just keeps floating up and becoming
[47:36] higher and higher. And when it floats up
[47:38] enough, I'm telling you, the shi
[47:42] begins to really flow. And that's what
[47:44] the master talked about. A throng upon
[47:45] throng of ecstasy saturates me day and
[47:48] night. That's where you live. You want
[47:50] to feel love, just wave your hand across
[47:52] your chakras. All this energy comes
[47:54] flying out for as long as you want,
[47:56] whatever you want. And now come out and
[47:58] you don't have to do anything because
[47:59] you already have everything you ever
[48:01] wanted. Period. And so you you can
[48:03] become the servant of others and help
[48:05] others. I hope
[48:08] this deep talk. I knew someday it was
[48:10] going to come out. I tried to not ever
[48:12] talk about it. Do you understand?
[48:15] You're in there. What are you doing in
[48:18] there? I hope that if there's an answer,
[48:21] it is letting go. That's what I'm doing
[48:24] in here. I'm letting go of me. I'm dying
[48:27] to be reborn. Manus mind equals God. I'm
[48:32] letting go of it. I'm not fighting it.
[48:34] I'm not suppressing it. I'm not staring
[48:35] at it. I'm not judging it. Doesn't mean
[48:38] it's not there. It just passes through
[48:40] if you let it. All right.
[48:43] Gag
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